Open Discussion: Are You a Freelance Whore?

I got an email yesterday from someone seeking my blog consulting services. This person’s site was about hypnosis, a field which some people feel is legitimate and has real-world beneficial applications, while others see it as a way to cheat in their efforts to deal with people by gaining unfair control over them.

This person wanted my help in making more money for his site. The site’s content was clearly in the “get an unfair advantage over others” camp. That’s where all the snake oil money gets made in this field. Even though hypnosis may have beneficial applications for people, that’s not what this site was about.

There was no way I was going to work with this guy. When I replied to his query, I considered saying something like, “Thanks, but I’m already too busy as it is.” That’s a true statement, but it wasn’t the reason why I chose to not work with him. I figured, Eh, what the hell, and told him the truth why I wasn’t going to help him.

As expected, I received a defensive reply suggesting I didn’t know enough about hypnosis and that I was under misconceptions about it like much of the general public. He didn’t know that I already knew enough about hypnosis to make an informed decision. I could have replied back to him that his site wasn’t exactly helping to overturn public perception (just the opposite), but the last thing I needed was a useless argument with a stranger. I’m not saying he’s a bad person, I’m saying I’d be selling out my own principles if I took his money.

Is it about the money? Or something greater?

Working with clients you don’t personally like or who are doing things which go against your values NEVER works out. I love to work with people who are forging their own way of living in this new economy by helping others, and doing it in a way I find inspiring if not at least agreeable. Certainly not by peddling snake oil and taking money from suckers.

Online business success is about much more than just selling any old thing and taking people’s money. Actually, let me rephrase that, success in life and living life in a vibrant, meaningful way is about much more than that.  Online business success is simply a side effect of that drive. Even it isn’t a goal unto itself (otherwise you could just start a scummy dieting blog and be done with it).

By any means necessary? Really?

What it really distills down to for me is the idea of ends vs. means. We’re all familiar with the idea that the ends justify the means. We almost never hear anyone support the opposite idea: it is the means which justify the ends. The first is the path of ruthlessness (even cheating). The second is the path of wisdom and insight.

If you sell out to achieve something, you didn’t truly achieve anything. I’d say you failed, bigtime. Think about who you help with your business, and why, and what you’re really making for yourself in this life. I mean, if you really believed the ends justified the means, then if you wanted money you’d simply rob a bank.

What’s your story?

Have you ever taken work “just for the money” only to regret it? Have you ever felt the proud thrill of working with clients whose values and perspective mesh with your own? Have you ever worked with someone “just for the money” and it came out just fine, thank-you-very-much? Share your stories in the comments!

  • http://www.jasonmkey.com Jason mKey

    I only work with really interesting projects. Life is to short to waste time with those who are boring.

    • remarkablogger

      It certainly means the highest chance for success all around for everyone

      involved, doesn't it?

  • http://flatratebiz.com Genuine Chris Johnson

    100% of the problems in my business: cashflow, connections, and others are by taking “moneywork.” There are real estate types and even attorneys and physicians that are selling solutions of dubious value (modify your own loan).

    What it does it it drives me to despair: is this it? IS this the best work for me? Do I have to sell this pabulum that I don't believe in?

    And the rest of it suffers because I'm dealing with one jerk. When you're a whore you change for the worse.

    • remarkablogger

      We can't truly claim to work for ourselves if we're sellouts. We're still

      money slaves instead of wealth creators.

      And yeah, nobody ever said, “You know, the day I became a whore was when it

      all turned around for me!”

  • http://twitter.com/Corpblogwriter Erika

    I just do better work for clients & products I like.

    I've been in PR for most of my career, which makes it virtually impossible to work with a clients where I don't least believe in what they're selling. If I sell your product to the media, I have to believe in it, or they won't either. At times I have stretched my ability to find the “good” in things (e.g., a butter substitute sprinkle – hey, it does have its uses!) but luckily have never had to shill for something I'm outright against. I do my best work for products/services and people I truly use, trust and admire.

    • remarkablogger

      In some cases finding the good is a simple matter of education and

      investigation. I had a client who did dog training. The more I worked with

      him the more fascinated I became by his situation. We both had to learn a

      lot in order to get his online business to a better place.

  • http://blogtechguy.com/ Joel Williams

    I've worked on a few sites years ago I wasn't 100% happy doing. One of those is fairly big now and more legit than it was, but at the time I still took the money. These days I turn down work occasionally I don't feel comfortable with, but I guess I'm lucky and don't get many ethically questionable sites. Good for you on the hypnosis one though!

    • remarkablogger

      Our instincts or our gut feelings can often be trusted. Say you're a web

      designer and you get approached by the owner of an adult website for design

      work. And you personally find the content or even the entire industry

      offensive (or maybe even just not something you want your name associated

      with). If you're desperate for income you might take the work anyway, or you

      might not. Thing is, you never know what's just around the corner. I've come

      to simply trust that things will work out and I can handle a pretty good

      dose of uncertainty. I try not to ever judge people's choices, but my guess

      is that many of us agree that over-compromising makes us feel like less of a

      person.

  • http://outsource2documaker.com DocuMaker

    I've taken jobs that I wasn't too comfortable with, but I always injected my personal beliefs into those projects — ultimately making them an opportunity to educate people who use the end products. Sometimes I think a few of my clients were educated in the process as well :-o

    I think as freelancers, we have to remember that providing our services affords us opportunities to influence change and development. It doesn’t really matter what kind of job that is since each one we get becomes a platform for our contributions. We just have to make sure those contributions are informational and “client-acceptable” at the same time.

    • remarkablogger

      That sounds like a very worthwhile approach, and though we may not be able

      to make it work in all cases, it provides a great alternative to “either/or”

      thinking. Thanks for sharing that! :)

  • http://www.studiocenter.com Lori

    I agree with the idea many of you have expressed: that you do your clients the most justice when you believe in what you are expressing. Many times, the public can see right through gratuitous, insincere recommendations. In these cases, it gives the product and the writer a bad reputation.

    • remarkablogger

      You must be talking about something specific? How does your comment apply to

      all freelancers?

  • http://nathanhangen.com/blog Nathan Hangen

    Bravo sir.

    • remarkablogger

      Spanx! :)

  • Mike Korner

    Life is too short to do things “just for the money”. Otherwise, I could just go back to Corporate America :)

    • remarkablogger

      EXACTLY. You may as well just get another “jobby-job.” (props to Snoop Dog)

    • Laurie

      Bravo, indeed, sir, but kind of tough when the cupboard (and bank account) is bare.

      • remarkablogger

        That's a good point to consider. If that happens, it most likely didn't

        happen TO us like some kind outside mystical force. Sure, some things are

        out of our control, but not as much as most people think. Certainly you

        don't want to be broke before you decide to start an online business. Even

        though the barrier to entry is extremely low now, it still takes some money

        (domain, hosting, email list manager, various software, etc.). Plus it takes

        time to build up business.

        The best path is to set your standards and vow to yourself to live by your

        ideals BEFORE you even take that first client, so that you already know what

        kind of client you'll work with — or not.

      • Mike Korner

        Laurie,

        I agree with you wholeheartedly.

        A former coworker and I discussed this whole issue a few years ago. We were talking about the fact that our employer would seemingly do anything for money. I jokingly asked him how our company was different from a prostitute. He said he didn't know. I told him there are some things a prostitute won't do for money.

        I apologize for the crudeness of that lesson but it contains a powerful point, and I believe it is where Michael started this discussion. We all have to decide what we will do for money.

        There are things I will do for money, and there are things I won't do for money. But, just like it is in the real world — everyone who says they would “never” steal (for example), hasn't been hungry enough to test their claim.

        Freelancing is tough. I've come to believe that 99% of the people considering it should put their head down and get back to work at their day job because it is a far easier life.

        The other 1% are the crazy ones who will find a way to make freelancing work. Hopefully they do it without sacrificing their beliefs. That's my plan anyway.

        • remarkablogger

          Well hey I'm the guy who put the word “whore” in the headline, so it's all

          good. We all have to decide for ourselves what we're willing to do and not

          do. We also have to figure out WHY we're doing it (or not). Why did we start

          an online business? Was it really just to make money or were there other,

          more intangible reasons like lifestyle freedom and a greater sense of

          fulfillment? If we keep our heads clear about these aspects of our work

          we'll be a lot better off.

  • Laurie

    When I was starting my freelance biz, I took a local job just for the money and regretted it. I did not feel an ethical match with this person's practice, and he also nickel-and-dimed the life out of me. I should have known by his first question to me: “Do you bill in quarter-hour increments?”

    • remarkablogger

      It used to be the same way for me but over time the local online business

      savvy has improved here in Vermont. Enough for me to start toying with the

      idea of some kind of local online business group/meetup/thingy.

  • http://twitter.com/TARAdactyl TARAdactyl

    I have to say that when I have taken a one-off (a project that doesn't fit my business model) or done work with someone I don't like personally the results have been meh and take huge chunks of effort. When I am focused and know what I offer and like, clients who are appreciative magically appear! That having been said, we have month to month payments so if I find that we do not work well together, we are not bound to each other and can part on friendly terms!

    • remarkablogger

      Tara, it's great you have your system set up to handle this sort of thing so

      you're not locked in. Very smart! :)

  • http://managingemployeeperformance.com Leon

    G'Day Michael,
    “Yes” to both questions. About 25 years ago, a huge international company wanted me to work with them for half a day on a Saturday in Melbourne, 500 miles away. I could easily do the work. But I was very busy, spent lots of time away from home and had a wife and four children I simply didn't see enough of. I didn't want to fly down to Melbourne at dawn on Saturday, do the work and fly back on Saturday afternoon .

    So I decided to ask for a quite ridiculous fee–twice my normal rate– plus accommodation in Melbourne on Friday evening, all meals, taxi fares plus first class air fares. This was supposed to deter them and give me Saturday at home with family

    Silly me. They didn't bat an eyelid. They accepted my fee and conditions without question. I did the job, took the money and took my family out to dinner on Saturday night.

    Fortunately I still have clients who bought my first audiotape program 15 years ago and still buy everything I produce. I have another with whom I've worked for 10 tears and still write and produce their client newsletter and continue to advise. Working with these sort of people is a real joy.

    I've learnt two things. Firstly, never work with people you don't like or who run their business in a way you're not comfortable with.

    Secondly, the people who need you least use you most. The most rewarding assignments come from people who probably would've gotten it done with or without me because they are listeners, learners and innovators.

    Just another one of my stories Michael……..!

    Make sure you have fun

    Regards

    Leon

    • remarkablogger

      “the people who need you least use you most”

      Wow. That's huge. Thanks for sharing your experience with us, Leon. :)

  • http://stormywriter.com/default.aspx Robert Medak

    I have standards the I will not prostitute just to make money. I also will not work for less than slave wages.

  • http://www.featherandstone.com.au Seth

    We run a wedding photography business in Brisbane Australia and pride ourselves on being a little “left field”, a little different. When we first started, one of our biggest issues was to shoot weddings we know DO NOT mesh with our style just for the money or do we say NO and “tuff it out”. We did a little of both. We pretty much shot whatever came our way for the first 6 months to get our feet wet but as we were on our feet, even though were still learning the business we decided to only shoot what we loved, even if that meant financial sacrifice. The results have come but it wasn’t over night. We now attract the right client at the right price and most importantly, we still enjoy our work.

    • remarkablogger

      Seth, thanks for showing us how a little of both can work in real life.

      So… are you saying you were only a little whorish? (LOL, sorry had to run

      with the theme).

  • http://twitter.com/andrewrondeau Andrew Rondeau

    When I was younger I would always do a 'little bit on the side' to get some extra money.
    When I was 16, I had 4 part time jobs.

    When working in the corporate world, I worked really hard to climb the career ladder…for more money.

    Then…BAM!

    Money is no longer that important. Of course, we need it to have a decent life but my outlook towards money these days is completely different.

    I left the corporate world and now work form home.

    I've turned down loads of clients…mainly due to expectations.

    They say…”I would like a blog”

    I say…”Why?”

    They say…”So I can make loads of money!!!”

    I go on and manage their expectations and tell them blogging is no quick rich scheme.

    I loose the client. They go on and work with someone who is willing to tell them it is a way to 'get rich quick'.

    I feel good though.

    Andrew

    • remarkablogger

      Looks like you're doing the right thing, Andrew. Rock on man. :)

  • http://bloggmaker.com Blog marketing

    Wow really daring….Well I havent got that chance yet as it is just startup for me but yes I will keep this deep in my mind….Thanks for sharing..

    • remarkablogger

      I don't get what you are saying. If you've taken any clients at all, each

      one is a chance to make that decision, yes?

  • http://starttoblog.com BarneyA

    Hi Michael

    Agree with you totally. I worked with a company about a year ago on a small piece of work that lasted about 6 weeks.
    Their mentality and “reason for being” was totally at odds with my own modus operandi.
    Long story short – I needed the cash at the time and chose to ignore a niggling feeling that they and I would not get along.
    We got the project done – but it broke my heart along the way as my suspicions about their values proved to be 100% correct. It was a painful experience and I felt that I had let myself down.
    Lesson learned – it’s not worth it – period.
    Best
    Barney

  • Evanlevine

    This is a great topic. I have been a retail financial advisor for 22 years and remember can relate this post to the time when I first heard an industry speaker urge us to fire our biggest ” PITA” client. ( AKA Pain in the …..) The concept is that when you walk away from toxic business relationships , you free up all of this energy that – somehow – brings in healthier – and probobly more profitable relationships.

    I believe this is true, with two caveats:

    1) Do it in stages. Grow into it. Pulling the trigger to fast may not be smart

    2) It is not always black and white: I have a client who can be very draining and toxic at times – but he is a kind human being ( and my 4th highest revenue account) So – at least for now- I am not planning on firing him. There is a lot of Grey in deciding whom to work for, so tread carefully.

    • remarkablogger

      Very wise, thank you for sharing your experience with us. Especially new

      freelancers could learn from this, as it may not be something they've

      considered.

  • http://www.fightyourdui.com/ Jerthrode

    Sometimes we need to be wise enough in extending our hands to other people. We need to look at first if this is for the good of everybody or not. I mean, it is not bad to help but we need to do it with discernment. I agree, you made the right decision.

  • http://www.freshbooks.com John Coates

    Hi Michael – great post!

    John from FreshBooks here. I always want to believe freelancers get into freelancing to do what they love – not the money. And saying no to clients is part of that – they love designing or writing or developing but only for clients they believe in, because they love what they do.

  • pdf library

    Yeah you know being a freelancer is all about the money for me, I think I need a job rather

  • Alex Papa

    Ask yourself the question “Who around you, that you consider legitimate and reputable, doesn’t prostitute themselves for money?”
    What about the world’s major pharmaceuticals, do they not promote drugs that carry huge risks of undesireable side effects ? Does your doctor, that you trust, not prescribe such drugs to your kids because he benefits financially? What about your bank? Does your bank manager, where you bank your money, not “push” the 120% LTV mortgage and carefully “hides” the small print that ties you to outrageous exit fees, just because his commission is higher? What about your financial advisor? Does he not recommend “the best pension plan” because his admin fee is higher? What about the “under-the-table business” of governments that they quietly pass laws to favour the plans of ambitious multinationals at the expense of the environment or our health? If nobody (from top to bottom) prostituted their values for money, then Coca Cola would not be advertised on TV commercials, and your local super market would not be packed with junk food. But they don’t care if you get cancer as long as they get their billions.
    If it is done on the multibillion dollar level, does it justify you and me doing it on a smaller scale?

    • remarkablogger

      Pretty off the subject, really. Nice laundry list of despicable acts,

      though.

  • http://www.vitalifematcha.com Matcha Green Tea

    Inspiring blog post. Love your thoughts on flipping the perspective on the term 'means to an end'. I used to operate a copywriting agency and I always found that working with clients on something I actually believed in always delivered the best results – in terms of being fulfilling for myself, and in terms of results for the client.

  • http://twitter.com/onreact_com Tad Chef

    Yeah, I don't work with all kinds of clients similar to this one, gambling, porn, thin affiliate sites… I may earn less but I'm happy.

    • remarkablogger

      Wait… money does not equal happiness? ;)

  • http://www.noisebuffet.com Game Audio

    I have taken a good amount of music production gigs that required me basically ripping off some hugely popular song. There is a fine line to 'emulating' the song and completely coming off like a sound alike. If the cash is there, then I will often take it. There was a video game based around “Barbie dolls' that I turned down due to a complete lack of interest. They wanted britney spears type stuff, which I just refuse to recreate!

  • http://www.gameaudio101.com Game Audio

    I have taken a good amount of music production gigs that required me basically ripping off some hugely popular song. There is a fine line to 'emulating' the song and completely coming off like a sound alike. If the cash is there, then I will often take it. There was a video game based around “Barbie dolls' that I turned down due to a complete lack of interest. They wanted britney spears type stuff, which I just refuse to recreate!

    • remarkablogger

      Good man. I don't think the world needs any more of that!

      But seriously, consider this: would you be proud to have a certain client or

      work in your portfolio? If yes, TAKE THE JOB. If no, DON'T. For designers

      (and even not-so-designers) the portfolio is everything.

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